Suboxone Day 10 - Having some problems

Hello everyone,

I've been really busy that last 3 days, and I'll be busy until Monday. I just wanted to let you all know I'm doing ok still. I've had several episodes that have bothered me over the last 2 days. It comes on suddenly a feeling of being very cold. The cold that can only be described as withdrawal cold. It comes on and suddenly spreads over my entire body. I get so cold over my entire body to the point that it's painfully cold. This lasts for about 15 minutes then I become very very vulnerable to pain. Everything I touch hurts, I can't even take my shoes off unless I carefully untie them and slip them off, it hurts to much if I use my other foot to pry the shoe off. It seems to go away after a couple hours, but it's concerning me. In general everything is going ok except for these episodes. I've had a handful of pretty severe cravings, but nothing that I couldn't handle.

Please let me know if any of you have experienced anything like this please, I get really worried and start obsessing if I can't find answers...And please let me know what has worked for you if you've experienced something like this.

I hope everyone is doing ok, and I'll talk to you soon...

Your Partner In Recovery,
~Particular....

Hi There,

I have gone through all sorts of changes since I began Suboxone. One minute I'm fine and the next I'm in a whirl wind of depression, panic and basically don't feel well. For the last week it's been pretty easy. I still don't have interest in things any more. I use to do a lot of things I enjoyed, but now I have to force myself to do anything.

I'm sorry you are having such a hard time. All I can say is to hang in there and it does get better with time. Your mind needs time to repair. Try to think good thoughts and do things for other people to help them out and it will do you good.

Talking about it helps and just have faith you are going to be okay. You deserve to a life of goodness.

Love,
Barbara

Thanks for all of the information Dee/Barb,

I had all of the medical things done 2 months ago, they're still trying to find out what's causing my joint problems. The doctor is a autoimmune specialist and did every test in the book. I give back a lot, which was why I was so busy that last three days, I was doing a charity event. I've been trying to walk every day, walking helps me in other ways too since my joints are still causing me problems, nothing like before, but I get really bound up if I don't use them enough.

This is without a doubt withdrawals. I've only experienced these symptoms while in withdrawal from the opium. Of course the cold lasted for 8 days as did the sensitivity to pain. It's very strange however that it comes on suddenly as if I've been in withdrawal for 24 to 36 hours. I go see my Doctor the 14th and I'll discuss this with him. I'm on 32 mg a day still, if I try to cut back I start going into withdrawals. I've even tried going 24 hours after taking 32 mg and I start having withdrawals around 16 hours, so I'm continuing 16 mg 2x daily to keep the dosage more consistent.

This is really bothering me, I so hoped that I would be one of those people that could get by with 4 mg, since Suboxone is 30-50 times more potent than heroin. Now I'm having fear that I'm going to be stuck on the suboxone, which will still be much better, but I'd hoped it would be very little of it if that was the case. I'll quit rambling now...

~Your Partner in Recovery,
~Particular...

Particular wrote:

Thanks for all of the information Dee/Barb,

I had all of the medical things done 2 months ago, they're still trying to find out what's causing my joint problems. The doctor is a autoimmune specialist and did every test in the book. I give back a lot, which was why I was so busy that last three days, I was doing a charity event. I've been trying to walk every day, walking helps me in other ways too since my joints are still causing me problems, nothing like before, but I get really bound up if I don't use them enough.

This is without a doubt withdrawals. I've only experienced these symptoms while in withdrawal from the opium. Of course the cold lasted for 8 days as did the sensitivity to pain. It's very strange however that it comes on suddenly as if I've been in withdrawal for 24 to 36 hours. I go see my Doctor the 14th and I'll discuss this with him. I'm on 32 mg a day still, if I try to cut back I start going into withdrawals. I've even tried going 24 hours after taking 32 mg and I start having withdrawals around 16 hours, so I'm continuing 16 mg 2x daily to keep the dosage more consistent.

This is really bothering me, I so hoped that I would be one of those people that could get by with 4 mg, since Suboxone is 30-50 times more potent than heroin. Now I'm having fear that I'm going to be stuck on the suboxone, which will still be much better, but I'd hoped it would be very little of it if that was the case. I'll quit rambling now...

~Your Partner in Recovery,
~Particular...

Hi Particular,
As everyone, sorry you are not feeling well. I remember the cold so very well! If I were kicking cold turkey it would be at least a month before I could feel warm again. I also had terrible cramps in my calves especially. I am one of the lucky people in that Suboxone worked so incredibly well for me right away. I have been on 32mg for 14 months now and personally don't care if I stay at that dose for the rest of my life. It is simply a part of day like taking my daily supplements, vitamins, etc.. The one thing I may do differently is that I do not take my entire dose once or even twic a day. I spread it out over the course of the taking one pill (8mg) four times a day. I have done this from the beginning and have had great luck with it. It is not a big inconveniece for me, no one even has to know I am taking one (have gotten very adept at subtley taking the little things . The most important thing I do is that I do not think of Suboxone as the one and only key to my recovery. I feel that I have a duty to help it along, so to speak. As soon as I started feeling better I began a new life altogether. I began an intense exercise program - I started out walking, and could barely do a block. Now 14 months later, I run an average of five miles 2-3 x's weekly, I do a combo of Tai Bo, kick boxing, and yoga. It sounds like I spend all my time exercising, but not at all. I just fit in into the course of my day. I eat really well now, lots of fish, chicken, fruits and veggies ( don't I sound like an ad for a health retreat ). It all pays off in spades though and really seems to work in conjunction with the Suboxone. If I lay off and just take the Suboxone, I feel the difference immediately! Point is just that I feel as if I should do my part and not just rely on the drug. I have tried coming down over the year and it just didn't work for me, so why change what's working. I hope you find the combo of things that make you feel great. I believe you will as you seem very motivated to change your life! Never stop trying new things and have a great day!
Beinok

Thanks again guys,

Beinok, it's funny that you said you take them spaced out. My doctor prescribed me 1 tablet every 6 hours. Perhaps he knew more than I gave him credit in my case. He did do a complete workup on me (asked a lot of question about how, when, and variations of my habit). His plan was very different from almost all of the other plans I've read about, so I just started taking them like the other people. I've tried 32x1 mg, 2x16, and even 2x1 and then 1x1 12 hours later. so I think I'm going to give the original prescription dosage a try and do the every 6 hours and see if this goes away. The problems do seem to start around 8 to 10 hours after a dose. Perhaps I can even get away with less if taken more frequently. I know that ultimately it really won't matter if I have to take them the rest of my life, and I forget to think about the important gifts that suboxone is giving me. As I've said I have a problem seeing the forest through the trees, I have a tendancy to get caught up with little insignificant things that distract me.

My thanks to you all for giving me your support and helping me see the forest in my recovery.

~Your Partner in Recovery,
~Particular...

Particular wrote:

Thanks again guys,

Beinok, it's funny that you said you take them spaced out. My doctor prescribed me 1 tablet every 6 hours. Perhaps he knew more than I gave him credit in my case. He did do a complete workup on me (asked a lot of question about how, when, and variations of my habit). His plan was very different from almost all of the other plans I've read about, so I just started taking them like the other people. I've tried 32x1 mg, 2x16, and even 2x1 and then 1x1 12 hours later. so I think I'm going to give the original prescription dosage a try and do the every 6 hours and see if this goes away. The problems do seem to start around 8 to 10 hours after a dose. Perhaps I can even get away with less if taken more frequently. I know that ultimately it really won't matter if I have to take them the rest of my life, and I forget to think about the important gifts that suboxone is giving me. As I've said I have a problem seeing the forest through the trees, I have a tendancy to get caught up with little insignificant things that distract me.

My thanks to you all for giving me your support and helping me see the forest in my recovery.

~Your Partner in Recovery,
~Particular...

Hi Particular,
I was thinking of your story last night and realized I don't really know it! I know that opium is your drug of choice, but I don't know how you found that drug, etc.. You have probably already posted your story, but I can't seem to find it ( or maybe it's not here). I'm not trying to be nosy (well, maybe a little bit , but I am interested in your story. Whatever you feel comforting revealing would be interesting to know. Hope you are feeling better and the spaced dose helped a bit.
Beinok

Beinok,
particular has generously shared his story with us,
The story is posted in the index under Suboxone Stories, the title of it is " particular's Road to Recovery with Suboxone"
Dee

nannamom wrote:

Beinok,
particular has generously shared his story with us,
The story is posted in the index under Suboxone Stories, the title of it is " particular's Road to Recovery with Suboxone"
Dee

Thanks Dee,
I suppose "Suboxone Stories" would have been a good place to look! I also realized that I have not posted my own story yet and should probably get around to doing that. day. Actually (I know this is the wrong place for questions) but since I have you, so to speak, I have been having a lot (daily) of headaches in the mornings. I have been on Suboxone for quite awhile so it seems kind of late to blame the drug, however, when I take my first dose it seems to go away. Have you ever noticed this? Have a great day!
Beinok

Beinok,

Obviously I've only been on Suboxone a short time, but I had a constant headache for the first 7 days, but it finally went away, and I haven't had anymore yet. I know this probably doesn't help you, but for me suboxone did have a headache side effect in the beginning.

Your Partner in Recovery,
~Particular...

The hardest part of giving advice is because everybody is different. A headache for some people can mean too high of a dose. It can be a reaction from the medicine itself. It can be from anxiety from not knowing if the medicine will work right away. It can be stress from the influx of going from using and abstinence from our drug of choice. If I don't get my coffee in the morning, I'm off-key and with a headache...even though my coffee intake has slacked off. I feel this medicine can effect us to not be as interested in other things in our life. I wish it would work with my smoking, as I seem to smoke more and more.

Ryan, if I can be of assistance to you, please reply...when you feel up to it. We are here for you.

Yours in the struggle,
Barbara