Question about Suboxone.

When they say less is more ,when referring to dosing, what exactly do they mean? Went to my doc this past Tuesday. Apparently I was taking the wrong dose. He didn't prescribed the right amount of pills anyway so I made do. I was taking 2 mg 3 times a day. He wanted me at 4 times a day. Truthfully, I felt ok except for a little problem falling asleep which I'm not sure was the Suboxone and a very slight case of the PAWS. I let him know this but he wanted me on 4 times, which would help with sleeping and the PAWS. It's 4 days at 4 times and to tell the truth I don't feel any better and the sleep thing is still there. Is this a situation where less could be better for me?

Hi Dee,
Yes , I think I understand what you are saying about the less being more. So if I am understanding this correctly I should get to a point and then start cutting the dose so it has the same effect? Maybe? I am not understanding the 16mg a day. I see myself at 8 mg a day. Wouldn't it be 2mg x 4 times a day = 8mg? Also, could you tell me more about all at once and not spreading it out over the whole day. What you say about dosing in the morning makes more sense when you take the 'less being more' into consideration. My doctor actually wants me to be taking my last dose at 12 am. I usually dose at 11pm as I do not want to be up that late on weeknights. This is not the first time I have heard of dosing all at once.
I'm also starting to think that staying up like that might be my problem. Last night I went to bed right after I posted here and slept through out the night. It was the earliest I went to bed since I started on Suboxone. I also think that part of it has been that I have been feeling so good lately that I don't mind being awake. If that makes any sense to you. I was usually feeling like crap so I couldn't wait to fall asleep or was doing the nod and fell asleep due to the dope. Usually was the nod going on.

Aww heck Dee. No need to apologize. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't something about Suboxone and math I didn't know about. Honest mistake and all that....
Ok, On to what you wrote about doctors and Suboxone? I'll be honest with you. I'm probably going to ask you any questions I have about my treatment if you don't mind. I really think my doctor fits into the category of the doctors that don't know a lot about Suboxone.
Ok, more honesty here. I first met my doctor while going through my second detox I did in a hospital. I felt he was trying to sell me Suboxone maintenance like a salesman would. I already had a bad experience with it when I did the first detox in a hospital so I declined. Four months later and after my good exp with Suboxone I changed my mind about maintenance and he was the first one I thought of. Why? Because I didn't know a lot about the requirements and such when starting this and I felt he might be a little lax on requirements if I fell short. I was desperate at that point as I probably would have relapsed, again, if I was turned down.
I actually think you know more about Suboxone, and I will soon, than most doctors. I think those of us who are at a point, trying to find anything that will help, go the extra mile and get well educated about addiction and treatments.
I still wonder why I was so sick while detoxing on Methadone.

By the way, math never was one of my strengths.

Dee, I hear ya about Math. For me that would also include, Science, English and S.S.. I really regret not doing better in school as I could have done much better than I did if I had put in half the effort as I did getting clean. Live and learn. Not saying I would be doing anything different as far as a career goes but it might have opened some other avenues for me.
Speaking of small worlds.... Where in Alabama did you live? I lived for a short time in Madison and worked in Brown's Ferry Nuclear Power Plant near Decatur. I lived there from Nov. of 06 to March of 07. Had a chance to get away for the winter. I was also going through a rough time, personally, and make some money during, what is usually, my slow time. So I went.

Long before I got clean I started researching Heroin, the addiction to it, the home remedies for detoxing, what to do for yourself after detoxing, inpatient rehabs, out patient rehabs and once I decided on it, some of the Suboxone. I knew full well the road I was on and where it was going to end up if I didn't clean up. It took quite a few times and some trial and error.
To be honest, I didn't have much faith in the care that's out there for addicts. From my experiences anyway. I'll find much more useful information here than I would at places like my H.I. web site. CIGNA. There is a lot to look at there but not much useful information for the addict who has tried all the obvious ways to get clean. If that makes any sense. Like I said, I took the time to educate myself long before I even tried to get off. I knew the battle ahead of me the first time I was dope sick.
Yesterday, I went to an N.A. meeting at noon time. Was going to go to another last night but I figured the time wrong from the N.A. web site, they show it in military time. I thought 1930 would be 8:30 and I drove to the wrong place to begin with. I sat there counting on my fingers and realized I had the wrong time and drove home. When I got home I checked the web page again and realized I was at the wrong place anyway.

Gonna try and make, at least, 1 today.
Well off to get some things done. Have a great day, Dee.

It has been my experience that Suboxone works best if we reduce our dose and we make headway in our recovery. I suppose it is designed this way as most I have spoken to have had the same experiences. We need more early on but was we work on ourselves and address all of the other issues with our addiction then we simply don't need as much Suboxone. I was on over 20mg per day and now only take a little bit each day. I just kind of went with the flow listening to my body like if I began to feel tired or a bit sluggish then I would reduce my dose. Other times I just said heck lets reduce some and see how it goes. If it didn't work I could always go back up. I know it took a couple of days to feel the effects if I felt them from any reduction. Hope my experience helps some.

GMJ